He was there from the beginning

A Trinitarian question.

For a Christian who confesses God as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, isn’t the idea of pitting Jesus against the portraits of God in the Old Testament a misunderstanding of what we mean by the word “Trinity”?

Don’t we confess that the Son — the eternally begotten one — was fully present, active, and revealed in the Old Testament as well as the New? In Genesis 1, the son was present. At the burning bush, the son also said “I AM.” Through the whole story, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were three-in-one.

Or am I getting my Trinitarian theology wrong here?


3 thoughts on “He was there from the beginning

  1. That’s the way I’ve always understood it, John. I believe that denying the connection would be tantamount to Marcionism.

  2. Then the LORD appeared to Abram 
    Gen. 12:7

    The LORD appears to Isaac
    And the LORD appeared unto him, and said, Go not down into Egypt; dwell in the land which I shall tell thee of: Genesis 26:2

    What LORD/God was that?
    “After forty years had passed, an angel appeared to Moses in the flames of a burning bush in the desert near Mount Sinai. When he saw this, he was amazed at the sight. As he went over to get a closer look, he heard the Lord say ‘I am the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.’ Moses trembled with fear and did not dare to look.
    Acts 7; 30

    What God/Lord was that?
    From John Wesleys notes:

    I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. Matthew 22
    I am the God of Abraham — The argument runs thus: God is not the God of the dead, but of the living: (for that expression, Thy God, implies both benefit from God to man, and duty from man to God) but he is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: therefore, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are not dead, but living. Therefore, the soul does not die with the body. So indeed the Sadducees supposed, and it was on this ground that they denied the resurrection.

    Jesus is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob?
    How is that possible?

    Important point you make John.
    The God of the Old Testament is the God of the New Testament.
    Jesus is in full agreement and of the same mind as God The Father.
    Jesus in in complete agreement with the Father on every act and word the Father commands and speaks.
    Jesus can rightfully say :

    …….The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.
    John 14:10

    I think if people would stop and think logical they would have a better understanding.
    You cannot pray for God to act in justice, in mercy, be our deliverer and protector with out asking, “What are we being delivered from or who do we seek protected from?”

  3. I’ve never understood those who think there is a difference between the God of the Hebrew Scriptures and the God of the N.T. What preceded the flood? Genesis 6:5: “The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.” Note the superlatives: EVERY imagination, ONLY evil, ALL the time.

    The Holy God who loves without measure is revealed, Genesis to Revelation.

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