The Methodist Pope?

CBS News reports that Pope Francis affirms the United Methodist Church’s position on the ordination of gay clergy:

When questioned on what his response would be upon learning that a cleric was gay, though not sexually active, the Argentinian-born pontiff said he wouldn’t judge gay priests and explained, “You can’t marginalize these people.”

“If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?” he said.

I’m sure the news outlet’s failure to mention that the Pope’s position on this question mirrors the UMC was an editorial oversight.

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9 thoughts on “The Methodist Pope?

  1. That didn’t make any sense. I didn’t hear or read anything in the linked broadcast referring to UMC nor do I understand your statement concerning ordination of gay clergy in the UMC. Can you clarify?

    1. It was a joke, in part. But the truth is that what he said is the umc position. So long as a person is celibate in singleness, the can serve as clergy in the umc.

      1. That is not what the Pope said.
        That is a stretch.

        “Basing itself on sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered. They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved” (Catechism of the Catholic Church 2357).

        “Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection” (CCC 2357– 2359).

        Courage International is a support group approved by the RCC

        1. In coverage I have read, the Pope was responding with the assumption of no sex on the part of the priest in question.

          No acts. Only inclination.

  2. Yes, the pope does seem to state the United Methodist position well. It occurs to me that he emphasizes the fact that homosexual people certainly are persons of sacred worth. Last week my bishop, Ken Carter addressed a gathering at St. Luke’s UMC in Orlando with a similar message, and was warmly received. I understand that many in the congregation that evening are part of an ongoing ministry St. Luke’s has with gay folks, and they were deeply moved to hear words of such affirmation from our bishop. Bishop Carter did NOT focus on the statement that the practice of homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching—and neither did the pope. Odd, don’t you think?

  3. I don’t know the sexual practices of my presumably straight pastor, nor should I. Why should I know anything about them if they were gay?

    1. You do not need to, but those in a relationship of accountability and/or supervision with your pastor do need to be aware of his/her spiritual state.

    2. You will most likely see an offical statement come from the Vatican clarifying what the Pope meant and what the official position of the RCC is. It has happened before when there was a misunderstnding concerning “Vatican Clarifies Pope’s ‘Redeemed Atheists’ Remark, Says Salvation is Only in Catholic Church”

    3. You have every right to ask that question and you have a right to expect an answer.
      I will do my best to answer your question in brief .
      Christians are to be concerned with “the things of God”.
      We find that truth in the book of Job, Matthew, Mark and 1 Corinthians.
      You will remember Christ told Peter, “you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men.”

      God must be concerned with sexuality because the topic comes up a lot in scripture.
      The proper use and understanding is explained in Gods inspired Word and reinforced by historical writings.
      You will notice the Book of Leviticus includes a more detailed description of the 10 commandments, love of neighbor, what is acceptable and unacceptable sexual practice and how God’s People are to conduct themselves. A description of the Holiness of God and God’s desire for his people to be a Holy Nation of People is found in this book.

      Leviticus was written at a time when the “chosen people” had no earthly King. They were led by God who spoke to Moses who was considered the closest man to God among the Jewish people because Moses “spoke to God face to face” Exodus 33:11.
      It is clear to see how God expected His Chosen People to conduct themselves. Those same principles are reflected in the N.T. teachings of Christ and those God instructed His apostles.

      We are not Gnostics and we do not believe what philosophers like Plato espoused.
      We believe the body and soul are intricately entwined and what we do with our bodies matters.

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