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Atheists, deists, and sleepers

John Wesley writes about the person he describes as spiritually dead or asleep in his sermon “The Spirit of Bondage and Adoption.”

The darkness which covers him on every side, keeps him in a kind of peace; so far as peace can consist with the works of the devil, and with an earthly, devilish mind. He sees not that he stands on the edge of the pit, therefore he fears it not. He cannot tremble at the danger he does not know. He has not understanding enough to fear. Why is it that he is in no dread of God? Because he is totally ignorant of him: If not saying in his heart, “There is no God;” or, that “he sitteth on the circle of the heavens, and humbleth” not “himself to behold the things which are done on earth:” yet satisfying himself as well to all Epicurean intents and purposes, by saying, “God is merciful;” confounding and swallowing up all at once in that unwieldy idea of mercy, all his holiness and essential hatred of sin; all his justice, wisdom, and truth. He is in no dread of the vengeance denounced against those who obey not the blessed law of God, because he understands it not.

When I read this, I am struck by how many people fit the descriptions here. You have atheists and deists here. You also have a vast number of people who say something to the effect of “God is too merciful to allow people to go to hell.” You have, in other words, me before my conversion to Christianity.

There is nothing new here. We have all these people with us today.

When Wesley encountered these types of Christians and non-Christians, he understood them to be “natural” men and women, that is people dead to the life of the Holy Spirit and unaware of God. He did not see them as people who just happened to disagree with him, but as people who were spiritually dead and in need of supernatural intervention.

I gather that in spite of the fact that Wesley’s sermons are supposed to be doctrinal standards for United Methodists, a great many United Methodists would not embrace Wesley’s description of human nature. We tend to speak of pluralism rather than of people who slumber in spiritual darkness in need of being awakened by God.

But what is the source of our confidence as United Methodists (or Christians) that Wesley did not know what he was talking about? We appear to have largely abandoned the concern that men, women, and children stand under eternal judgment — as our creeds and Bible indicate — and instead seem mostly concerned with what will help people be worldly happy during this brief span of years they have been granted by God.

I don’t understand how we end up that way as Bible reading, creed repeating Christians. But for a large number of us, that appears to be the case.

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November 16, 2013 at 6:01 am

The church without God

As at least one group of atheists attempts to form a “church,” one planning on planting international franchises in the coming months, it is interesting to read how the group and its supporters think about what a church is:

I did not need to be sold on the idea (explained nicely here by philosopher Alain de Botton). Like the Sunday Assembly’s founders, stand-up comics Pippa Evans and Sanderson Jones, I don’t think religion should have a monopoly on community. I like the idea of a secular temple, where atheists can enjoy the benefits of an idealized, traditional church—a sense of community, a thought-provoking sermon, a scheduled period of respite, easy access to community service opportunities, group singing, an ethos of self-improvement, free food—without the stinging imposition of God Almighty.

A sense of community, a thought-provoking sermon, a regular break from hectic lives, access to service opportunities, group singing, an encouragement to better oneself, and free food. These are what make a church a church, in their mind.

And, I dare say, in the minds of many Christians. Indeed, aren’t these the things we often sell when trying to get people to come to church? Aren’t many of our church marketing plans built around just these elements?

John Wesley called this having the form of religion without the power.

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September 23, 2013 at 9:36 am

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How do we respond to the culture?

My previous post includes a talk by Billy Abraham in which he describes of four changes in Western culture that challenge the church:

  • Changes to the meaning of marriage, which he connects to deeper issues around the praise of sensuality.
  • The decline of Protestantism, which he connects to the failure to pass the faith down from generation to generation.
  • The rise of secularism and aggressive, evangelistic atheism.
  • The growing presence of Islam.

Abraham does not argue these are all arising from the same cause, but does argue that the church needs to have responses to these trends that help people in the pews understand who they are in light of the gospel of Jesus Christ and how they are to preserve that identity in a changing world.

I fully understand that some people will not agree that these four changes are the most important ways the culture is changing. But I do find myself trying to articulate a way that the church can respond to these changes that speaks to all the changes not just one. For instance, how does our response to Islam (and religious pluralism in general?) provide us the tools to respond to secularism and aggressive forms of atheism? Or does our response to Islam leave us less able to respond well to the challenge of growing secularism? How do we recoup from our failures to hand down the faith across generations (see Kenda Creasy Dean’s excellent book for more on this) in ways that give us tools that speak to the other changes in the culture as well?

It does seem as if we tend to respond to various trends and movements in the culture in an ad hoc way. We focus on one or the other presenting problem that the culture throws up for the church. What would a coherent and comprehensive response to the culture in which we are located look like?

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August 2, 2013 at 2:20 pm

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Ridicule as the weapon of choice

Scot McKnight shares a post by a friend of his who was distressed by how well atheists do in debates.

A key paragraph:

Bill Maher, Christopher Hitchens, Penn Jillette, Richard Dawkins, etc, specialize—not in philosophical thought—but in ridicule. And that means the new atheists excel on the only evangelistically-effective playing field that matters—that of human emotion and desire. Most Christian apologists conversely seem content to surrender that ground in their preference for mere rationality. This is a tragic mistake and it’s the primary reason Christian belief is diminishing, marginalized and an easy target for nighttime comedians.

The post reminded me of something Allan Bevere posted earlier in the week that quoted Thomas Jefferson saying the only proper response to the doctrine of the Trinity is ridicule.

I am reminded of the drunk rowdies who used to show up where John Wesley preached.

And I am reminded of the mocking Jesus endured at the hands of the Roman soldiers.

Ridicule is the primary tool of those who want to assail belief. It appears it always has been. The only response I know of is that offered by our Lord on the Sermon on the Mount: poverty of spirit, meekness, humility, peaceableness, love. If we live as Christ calls us to live, we can survive people being snarky.

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July 7, 2012 at 11:42 am

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Faint praise for religion

The Wall Street Journal has a article by an atheist who praises the form of religion but takes away its power.

His praise is for all the exterior things that religion does.

Everyone stands to learn something from the ways in which religion delivers sermons, promotes morality, engenders a spirit of community, inspires travel, trains minds and encourages gratitude at the beauty of life. In a world beset by fundamentalists of both the believing and the secular variety, it must be possible to balance a rejection of religious faith with a selective reverence for religious rituals and concepts.

Religion serves two central needs that secular society has not been able to meet with any particular skill: first, the need to live together in harmonious communities, despite our deeply-rooted selfish and violent impulses; second, the need to cope with the pain that arises from professional failure, troubled relationships, the death of loved ones and our own decay and demise.

In substance, his praise is not all that different from the criticism of atheists who attack religion. It confuses in the same way the outer shell of faith for the inner heart of it.

Lord help us if our faith does nothing more than promote morality, encourage travel, and make us grateful for beauty.

Written by John Meunier

February 18, 2012 at 1:43 pm

Posted in Faith, In the News

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