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		<title>Comment on What the Pope said by hollyboardman</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 20:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is an article saying that the Vatican has corrected the pope

http://www.examiner.com/article/vatican-corrects-pope-atheists-are-still-going-to-hell]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is an article saying that the Vatican has corrected the pope</p>
<p><a href="http://www.examiner.com/article/vatican-corrects-pope-atheists-are-still-going-to-hell" rel="nofollow">http://www.examiner.com/article/vatican-corrects-pope-atheists-are-still-going-to-hell</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Nazarenes on discipleship by Ed</title>
		<link>http://johnmeunier.wordpress.com/2013/05/25/nazarenes-on-discipleship/#comment-12629</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 20:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John, you are right. We don&#039;t hear thismkind of talk in the UMC. And we haven&#039; t heard it for a long time. What we seem to be hearing these days is how many and how much - how many butts in the pews and how much bucks in the plate. As if to say numbers define disciple making. Yes, we need to have people attending and money for ministry, but I think if we put more emphasis on the relationships made and nurtured and finding tools to do that it would be a better indicator of making disciples. Also, we need to stress the Christlikeness of the disciples we make.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, you are right. We don&#8217;t hear thismkind of talk in the UMC. And we haven&#8217; t heard it for a long time. What we seem to be hearing these days is how many and how much &#8211; how many butts in the pews and how much bucks in the plate. As if to say numbers define disciple making. Yes, we need to have people attending and money for ministry, but I think if we put more emphasis on the relationships made and nurtured and finding tools to do that it would be a better indicator of making disciples. Also, we need to stress the Christlikeness of the disciples we make.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Book Review: A Thorn in the Flesh by anon</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 12:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, &quot;gay&quot; was probably not the right word; I hope it wasn&#039;t offensive.

I asked because I had seen that hypothesis in one of Bishop Spong&#039;s books, and I did not know if it was one of his inventions or if it had wider support.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, &#8220;gay&#8221; was probably not the right word; I hope it wasn&#8217;t offensive.</p>
<p>I asked because I had seen that hypothesis in one of Bishop Spong&#8217;s books, and I did not know if it was one of his inventions or if it had wider support.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What the Pope said by d</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 11:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Vatican has an “Official Site” as do all other Christian Denominations.
“Official Sites” are the place to go to get the “real” and official position of any denomination.
There are so many interpreters of interpretation confusion is everywhere you go.
I know few United Methodist that can explain their own denominations theology .
Catholic Theology would be way  too complicated for most.

http://www.vatican.va/phome_en.htm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Vatican has an “Official Site” as do all other Christian Denominations.<br />
“Official Sites” are the place to go to get the “real” and official position of any denomination.<br />
There are so many interpreters of interpretation confusion is everywhere you go.<br />
I know few United Methodist that can explain their own denominations theology .<br />
Catholic Theology would be way  too complicated for most.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vatican.va/phome_en.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.vatican.va/phome_en.htm</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on What the Pope said by d</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 10:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;On Thursday, the Vatican issued an “explanatory note on the meaning to ‘salvation.&#039;&quot;

The Rev. Thomas Rosica, a Vatican spokesman, said that people who aware of the Catholic church “cannot be saved” if they “refuse to enter her or remain in her.”

At the same time, Rosica writes, “every man or woman, whatever their situation, can be saved. Even non-Christians can respond to this saving action of the Spirit. No person is excluded from salvation simply because of so-called original sin.”

Rosica also said that Francis had “no intention of provoking a theological debate on the nature of salvation,” during his homily on Wednesday.

Although the pope&#039;s comments about salvation surprised some, bishops and experts in Catholicism say Francis was expressing a core tenant of the faith.&quot;

Available on-line for all to read.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;On Thursday, the Vatican issued an “explanatory note on the meaning to ‘salvation.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>The Rev. Thomas Rosica, a Vatican spokesman, said that people who aware of the Catholic church “cannot be saved” if they “refuse to enter her or remain in her.”</p>
<p>At the same time, Rosica writes, “every man or woman, whatever their situation, can be saved. Even non-Christians can respond to this saving action of the Spirit. No person is excluded from salvation simply because of so-called original sin.”</p>
<p>Rosica also said that Francis had “no intention of provoking a theological debate on the nature of salvation,” during his homily on Wednesday.</p>
<p>Although the pope&#8217;s comments about salvation surprised some, bishops and experts in Catholicism say Francis was expressing a core tenant of the faith.&#8221;</p>
<p>Available on-line for all to read.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Book Review: A Thorn in the Flesh by John Meunier</title>
		<link>http://johnmeunier.wordpress.com/2013/05/22/book-review-a-thorn-in-the-flesh/#comment-12621</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Meunier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 03:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for stopping by to comment. Grace and peace.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for stopping by to comment. Grace and peace.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Book Review: A Thorn in the Flesh by Caroline Hall</title>
		<link>http://johnmeunier.wordpress.com/2013/05/22/book-review-a-thorn-in-the-flesh/#comment-12619</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Caroline Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 00:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks John for this great review.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks John for this great review.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Book Review: A Thorn in the Flesh by Caroline Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Caroline Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 00:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The movement for gay inclusion has been a thorn in the flesh to the church - forcing it to understand God&#039;s grace in new and different ways. However, it is also a nod to the possibility that Paul was homosexually inclined. I don&#039;t think that we can use the term &quot;gay&quot; because that suggests a relatively fixed orientation expressed as part of an individual&#039;s identity and it&#039;s unlikely that that was known in the first century.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The movement for gay inclusion has been a thorn in the flesh to the church &#8211; forcing it to understand God&#8217;s grace in new and different ways. However, it is also a nod to the possibility that Paul was homosexually inclined. I don&#8217;t think that we can use the term &#8220;gay&#8221; because that suggests a relatively fixed orientation expressed as part of an individual&#8217;s identity and it&#8217;s unlikely that that was known in the first century.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Book Review: A Thorn in the Flesh by Caroline Hall</title>
		<link>http://johnmeunier.wordpress.com/2013/05/22/book-review-a-thorn-in-the-flesh/#comment-12617</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Caroline Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 00:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that the price is steep...that was out of my hands...hopefully it will go into a second (cheaper) edition. You can suggest it to your librarian (please!) Caroline]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the price is steep&#8230;that was out of my hands&#8230;hopefully it will go into a second (cheaper) edition. You can suggest it to your librarian (please!) Caroline</p>
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		<title>Comment on Curse of respectability by d</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 15:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or maybe the church is cursed with a “I know better than God” mentality and are not doing what they were told to do.
Maybe the church  has usurped the primary goal of the Christian Church with social engineering thinking they have a better way than Christ.

The Great Commission calls followers of Christ to teach the teaching of Christ.
To evangelize the world so they will know the one true God, baptizing them in the name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit , missionary work and ministry.
That is Gods plan on “How to change the world”.

We are not instructed to accept other Gods, preach a foreign man made gospel or to social engineering.
We are not called to win a popularity contest with the world or appease every complainant  because they disagree with Christian doctrine, teachings and/or practice.
We are commissioned to  “  teaching them to observe all that that I have commanded you.” 
And that is exactly what the apostles did. The teachings of the apostles are found in the Book of Acts thru the Book of Revelations and I am sure they were about as popular in that culture as they are today.

We know the Apostle Peter, the Apostle Paul, as well as the other disciples of Christ faced opposition. The culture the first apostles knew was a culture filled with false Gods, promiscuity, abortion, exposure of children, Roman Baths, man boy relationship and same sex relationship and marriage, prostitution and slavery. We know because they are written of.
No one writes against things that do not exist. They write against practices that do exist and those practices were contrary to the teaching  of God.
We also know these are the very things the apostles fought against.

Why not try being a little brave and doing it Gods way as instructed by the God you say you worship. The world may not like you but Christ said:

“Everyone will hate you because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.” 

That truth is found in the Book of Mark, Luke &amp; John.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or maybe the church is cursed with a “I know better than God” mentality and are not doing what they were told to do.<br />
Maybe the church  has usurped the primary goal of the Christian Church with social engineering thinking they have a better way than Christ.</p>
<p>The Great Commission calls followers of Christ to teach the teaching of Christ.<br />
To evangelize the world so they will know the one true God, baptizing them in the name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit , missionary work and ministry.<br />
That is Gods plan on “How to change the world”.</p>
<p>We are not instructed to accept other Gods, preach a foreign man made gospel or to social engineering.<br />
We are not called to win a popularity contest with the world or appease every complainant  because they disagree with Christian doctrine, teachings and/or practice.<br />
We are commissioned to  “  teaching them to observe all that that I have commanded you.”<br />
And that is exactly what the apostles did. The teachings of the apostles are found in the Book of Acts thru the Book of Revelations and I am sure they were about as popular in that culture as they are today.</p>
<p>We know the Apostle Peter, the Apostle Paul, as well as the other disciples of Christ faced opposition. The culture the first apostles knew was a culture filled with false Gods, promiscuity, abortion, exposure of children, Roman Baths, man boy relationship and same sex relationship and marriage, prostitution and slavery. We know because they are written of.<br />
No one writes against things that do not exist. They write against practices that do exist and those practices were contrary to the teaching  of God.<br />
We also know these are the very things the apostles fought against.</p>
<p>Why not try being a little brave and doing it Gods way as instructed by the God you say you worship. The world may not like you but Christ said:</p>
<p>“Everyone will hate you because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.” </p>
<p>That truth is found in the Book of Mark, Luke &amp; John.</p>
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